Tronbike Meter (TBM) 4.0.0 Test Ride

Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Smoked My Quda

I gave up on the svelte null modem and velcro'ed in my trusty DB-25 pin chain-o-cables for the E-meter, and proceeded to put on the covers, rear fairings and tank in record time.

To top off this "release", I decided to put the recommended 41 psi of air in the tires. All the good bicycle pumps I own use Presta valving exclusively, so I decided to use the old 12 volt air compressor with its cigarette lighter ends, plugging it into Tronbikes never before used accessory port.

It worked great, I was headed to bed before 11pm. After all the pumping, maybe 10 minutes of runtime, turned it off and then tried turning on the bike. I got a flash of green on the dash then nothing. Dead. Removing the seat, I checked my line into the DC-DC converter and found a blown 7 amp fuse. Odd since it ran the pump no problem.

I put another fuse in, no green flash just another blown fuse. I noticed a wire tight under the tank, removed the fairings and tank. Another fuse, boom.

I disconnected the harness from the dc-dc and swear it registered a sane 13 volts. I poked around for a short circuit, deciding it might be the bulb itself in the dash. Tore off the covers, removed dash, checked lights, all looked sane. Boom, another fuse.

I was out of fuses, so I canabilized the 1 10 amp fuse from the accessory loop, put it in my main chain to the converter where I'd been blowing fuses. No more blown fuse, but still I had no 12 volt accessories. I then checked to find the DC-DC dead, despite the 63.7 input drop.

My theory is I blew the DC-DC converter ($25 Quda) with the 10 amp fuse, and/or it was going before then as its only rated for 20-60volts input. Something in the ignition could be bad too, dunno, but I need a new converter, a wire labeler, a ton of fuses and a wiring diagram and then go on a short circuit hunt.

2 comments:

Travis said...

I think you're doing something wrong... this is the second you've blown.... lol, you've got the worst luck!

Then again you've got 5 batteries, thats 13.8 at max charge, and 69V for a pack. Thats enough over the 60 rated voltage to blow it. 60V is not 5 batteries worth of voltage...

You should invest in the right converter for the job... get one of those $25 ones that have 20A output and 36-72V input.

Also, on that quda, is that a 10A input fuse? how many watts is the converter? If its the electricmotorsport one, its 100W, 12V and thats 8.3A.... its likely a 4:1 output to input ratio, so divide that by 4, and you get ~2A. Thats the fuse you should be using.

One tip: When you blow a fuse, if its black, its likely because of a short. If its melted, its because of overload. When its black, don't just put another one in, it'l blow again and again.

Todd Stiers said...

My pack registers 63.?? volts when fully charged, Quda is only rated for 60 max, 48 nominal.

I ordered a 100W Astrodyne (36-72 Volt in), we'll see if I can smoke it.

On the Quda, 7 amp input fuse - 100 w max, 100w / 12 volt = 8.3 A, so I was running 7 amps input and output side.

No black noticed in the fuses, but definite "spattering" in the little glass tube was observed.

So yes, I still might have a short or something going on. The bike suddenly seemed really overwhelming with too many wires and too many places for a possible problem. I've been relying on the stock loom a lot and using only 2 colors of wires for the stuff I added in (red and black).